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[Tim C.]

I brought home a PRS CE22 in emerald green. It plays really well and sounds decent. Are they considered okay? I would rather have a Custom 22 with birds but they didn't have one. This one was used.

Which model do you have?

Tim C. :)

[brianf]

I have a 2002 CU 22(in avatar). The CE 22's are considered a little brighter.

Does yours have Rotary or McCarty switching?

I will mail you a great article from Guitar Buyer Magazine (British Publication). They put a CE 22 head to head with a CU22. The conclusion is one is not better than the other. The are just very different. Post a picture of yours.

brianf

[Dave Paetow]

Tim, what year is it? The earlier ones (before '95 I think) had alder backs, the later ones mahogany.

[brianf]

Tim I can double check what Dave is saying tonight. I have The PRS Book and it's full of that kind of data. Dave is probably correct though.

brianf

[Dave Paetow]

I looked it up, it was August 16, 1994

[Tim C.]

This one is a 1999 solid mahogany body and has the rotary switch. It is a bit dark on the neck pickup but not in a bad way. The neck is maple with a rosewood cap. No binding.:(

I may want to put some brighter pickups in it.

Tim C.

[brianf]

Mine has the Dragon II Pickups. Those are very bright, even in the neck.

Did they tell you which pups are in yours? If not I'll check tonight.
If Dave is around maybe he can look this up now.


So are we going to see you posting on the PRS Forum?

By the way Tim, did you ever buy that MIM Strat? My son has one but I'm thinking of getting him an SG that he has been bugging me for. I'll turn the MIM Strat into a project guitar. If you got yours have you modded it at all? I have a post over on the Fender Forum posing this question.

brianf

[Tim C.]

Brian,

I passed on the MIM Strat.... for now. :lol I will probably get one later. I went with a fiesta red '62 RI Strat. I missed out on a '79 Strat at Dave's. :( You snooze, you lose.

I just brought home a new '01 Standard plus top in light burst so other guitars will have to wait a few months now. I wish this had the Kluson style tuners but it has the Grovers instead. I don't think you can switch Klusons after it has been fitted with Grovers.
This has a really different top. It is a mix of flame, birdseye and quilt.

Tim C.

[brianf]

My LP is a 2001 Std. Plus too. It has a nice flamed top. You can't see it in the avatar but on the LP site there is a good photo of it in both the gear and mugshots.

Post a photo of yours please.

brianf

[Tim C.]

I would love to post photo's but don't know how.

Tim C.

[brianf]

E Mail them to me. My son can do it. Or maybe Lily can help? Do you have a digital camera?

brianf

[Tim C.]

Yes and no. I have a digital camera but the link cable to the computer is broken so I can't even look at pictures I take.

Tim C.

[tom3k]

You can get conversion bushings from Stewmac that will let you use Klusons with a Grover-sized hole, but you still have to add a screw hole for each tuner (and possibly re-locate the original one). If it were me, I'd get used to the Grovers or see if anyone has keystone-shaped replacement buttons that will fit on a Grover.

[brianf]

Oooops:lol. I guess that could have been a nice stocking stuffer last month for you.

Are you going to mod the LP at all. I changed my pots and caps. 500k pots from Blackrose and .015 and .022 Orange Drop caps.
That was a trip. I must have used a roll of solder trying to get it correct.

BrianGWN keep laughing at my postings. At one point he wanted me to stop so he could meet me and do it himself, but its working well now. I did not do that nailpolish mod though. I'll get a couple of extra pots first in case they break as I take them apart.

brianf

[brianf]

The Grovers don't bother me. This guitar stays in tune well. I guess they are heavy though. But whats an extra ounce or so when we are talking LPs.;)

brianf

[Tim C.]

Do the '01 Standards have 300k pots or 500k in them.

Tim C.

[brianf]

Mine were less than 300 when tested!

brianf

[brianf]

Back to your PRS. If all is still stock it should have Dragon II's in both the neck and bridge. (From PRS Book). I'm surprized that you find them dark.

brianf

[Tim C.]

Are the Dragon II's thought to be pretty decent or would this guitar benefit from a pickup change?

I will play the guitar through my Boogie and see if it still seems a tad dark. I noticed that I had been playing it through my Super Reverb and I had it set for a Strat so I had the treble only on 6.

I thought maybe some SD Pearly Gates would sound good in this.
I usually don't mess with changing pickups and other parts on guitars but I may with this one. Maybe this would be a good candidate for the old Gibson pickups I just found.

Would the all mahogany body make a difference?

Tim C.

[brianf]

Santana personaly uses these. Now if you don't like his tone maybe these are not the right ones for you. PRS website has many options avail as well.

brianf

[Dave Paetow]

You are going to need pickups with multi conductor wiring if you want to be able to use the rotary switch. Duncans work good in a PRS.

[Tim C.]

Originally posted by Dave Paetow
You are going to need pickups with multi conductor wiring if you want to be able to use the rotary switch. Duncans work good in a PRS.

Thanks Dave,

You are right. I forgot that these split the coils in certain positions. The Pearly Gates are available with four position wiring I believe.

Tim C.

[brianf]

Hi Tim; I mailed you that CE 22 on vrs Cu 22 product review this morn. The same issue also had a Great multi page review of the Mesa Road King. I sent that as well.

Could you please check out the post I have in the amp section. I have a problem with my Marshall.

Many thanks.


brianf

[Tim C.]

Brian,

Did you email or snail mail that review?

I will check your amp post pronto. :blp

Tim C. :)

[brianf]

Snail mail Tim. Most of the review is white print on black or colored background so I could not get a good scan.

brianf

[mofinco]

Originally posted by Dave Paetow
You are going to need pickups with multi conductor wiring if you want to be able to use the rotary switch. Duncans work good in a PRS. As usual, I'm very late to this party... :lol

I've owned 3 PRS, currently owning only one - my '94 all-ebony McCarty. I've also had an '89 and a '90 Custom.

I agree with Tim and Brian - the PRS pickups ARE dark sounding, particularly with Boogies, which are my main amps.

I put Duncans in all my PRS and was MUCH happier with them. I currently use a '59B in the neck position of my McCarty, and a JB Trembucker in the bridge. The Trembucker model put the pole pieces dead-nuts under the strings in the bridge position. It also has enough umph to sound good when split out to single-coil mode, which is one of the positions on that rotary switch.

A lot of people don't like the JB in a Les Paul, but they sound different in a PRS... it would be worth a try, Tim! :2c

P.S. Tim, if you think you might be interested in trying one, I have an offer for you: I have a spare JB Trembucker sitting in my pickup box waiting for a strat project I never got around to. If you want, I'll box it up and send it out to you so you can install it and try it out without having to spring any money for a purchase before you know if it's what you want. If you're interested, let me know.

[brianf]

Hi Tim;

You have been quiet about the PRS. Any changes made yet?

Did you get the article I sent you yet?

brianf

[Tim C.]

Brian,

No it hasn't come yet. :(

I had my bandmate come over and play the guitar and he said it was his favorite of the guitars I had him play that day. I asked him to play my new Fender'62 RI Strat, the PRS and the Les Paul Standard plus. I guess the PRS is a keeper.

Rick,

Thanks for your kind offer. I will keep it in mind. Right now I am starting to dig it the way it is after spending some time with it. :)
This is looking like it will be a great stage guitar due to its versatility.

I just wish it was a neck through only for appearance sake.

Tim C.

[brianf]

Tim

Can you please do me a favour. Measure how wide the fingerboard is at the nut on you LP. Just the wood, don't include the binding. This relates to the following thread.

http://www.lespaulforum.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=32025


I spent some time on an R9 this week and it has so much more room due to the ultra thin binding. I have always felt a bit cramped on the LP. I use it mostly for rhythm work, lots of open chord stuff.

If I can get some stainless fret wire I want to refret the LP so that the frets come over the nibs for more room.

brianf

[Tim C.]

Brian,

The Standard plus is 1 1/2" and my goldtop is 1 9/16th.

Tim C.

[brianf]

So Tim, your STD Plus is narrower than mine. Do you find it cramped at all?

brianf

[Tim C.]

To be honest with you I never noticed the difference until you mentioned it. I guess It doesn't really bother me. I do know what you are talking about because I love my Strats but I do feel cramped on those.

I will go back and measure the Standard. It was late and I was tired when I did it the first time. They should all be the same.

Tim C. :)